. >> here's something, mr. mulligan, professor mulligan has an important point. there are a lot of people now who are less attached to the workforce than they used to be. we have about almost 14% to 18% of our workers are contingent workers. part-time workers looking for full-time work or are self-employed. some of these people in a very down economy would not have any work were it not for a little bit of liberalization of unemployment insurance and food stamps. i think personally we didn't go far enough in that direction. i think that's one reason a lot of people don't have the money to keep the economy going. but let me just say, we want to be celebrating. larry, you want to be celebrating these unemployment numbers. shame on you for not being more optimistic tonight. >> i'm sorry. i can't get that optimistic tonight. i think you should be doing 3 0 00,000 jobs a month. casey mulligan's points that the social safety net program, eligibility has been expanded so much, they no longer represent the countercyclical fiscal aid in bad times. >> that's baloney. that i